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Postby dogmeat » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:52 pm

Goddamnit. Can you change providers to one that does?

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Postby Too-Much-Coffee Mistress » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:04 pm

BC/BS is pretty much your only choice in Michigan, unless you can pay through the teeth. Not to mention that the reason they dropped the coverage is because they saw their competitors weren't offering it.
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Postby hobokenbob » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:27 pm

our health plan is nothing but a series of local cartels and monopolies backed by huge lobbying money making sure the status quo is never questioned, and real reform will never be passed. And beltway insiders wonder why the public is so friendly towards "socialism" right now.

I'd say i would boycot my own BC/BS NE branch, but it's the only plan my work offers. (edit: that isn't a bogus defined contribution plan that places all the risk i don't get a chronic illness on myself.)
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Postby Tweeg » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:50 pm

See you should have moved to Canada, most provinces cover that surgery.

Hell they even cover stomach staples

no free boob jobs or woohoo extensions .... yet

just don't bang up your leg or you'll have to camp out in the damn er

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Postby SporkAndrew » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:27 am

No free boob jobs?

I know of a couple of people that were in my year at high school that got breast-enlargement surgery done on the NHS. All they had to do was prove that their lack of chestage was making them depressed and lack confidence to go about their lives.

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Postby Bag of Ass » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:01 pm

What if I could prove that their lack of chestage was making me depressed?

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Postby Tweeg » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:11 pm

SporkAndrew wrote:No free boob jobs?

I know of a couple of people that were in my year at high school that got breast-enlargement surgery done on the NHS. All they had to do was prove that their lack of chestage was making them depressed and lack confidence to go about their lives.


On one hand I'm angry cause because its shit like that that clogs health care systems ...

On the other hand I'm happy because bigger boobs makes a better world. And the britt lasses could use all the help they can get to look nice :)

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Postby SporkAndrew » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:33 am

Bag of Ass wrote:What if I could prove that their lack of chestage was making me depressed?


Just turning up at a GP and trying and book an operation without consent?

They'd probably go for it.

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Postby pablo banquo » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:22 pm

British girls have got some of the biggest boobs in the world, on average.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... e17807.ece

Could have something to do with the obesity thing, too. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/ ... .politics1
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Postby hobokenbob » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:56 pm

Maybe I'm just miserably pessimistic, but the AMA's endorsement of the House health care reform bill just makes me all the more certain it's as toothless and corporation friendly as the compromised healthcare plan MA has.

When it was first intorduced I was happy about the MA health reform deal, and thought it was a step in the right direction It was one of the few feathers in Romney's cap I'd give him due credit for, but the lowering tide of this recession has really shown its weakness - it's getting slashed left and right with each new budget revision, and you'd have to have your head stuck in the sand to think it could be in any way described as "universal" anymore.
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Postby Kauser » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:29 pm

hobokenbob wrote:Maybe I'm just miserably pessimistic, but the AMA's endorsement of the House health care reform bill just makes me all the more certain it's as toothless and corporation friendly as the cop out healthcare plan MA has.

When it was first intorduced I was happy about the MA health reform deal, and thought it was a step in the right direction It was one of the few feathers in Romney's cap I'd give him due credit for, but the lowering tide of this recession has really shown its weakness - it's getting slashed left and right with each new budget revision, and you'd have to have your head stuck in the sand to think it could be in any way described as "universal" anymore.


Fixed it for you.

I can't really explain in words how angry this thing makes me. On either side it should piss people off. The fact that some MA residents (based on their income) could spend more on healthcare than on rent. Or the simple fact that it's another layer of bureaucracy that does nothing significantly additional to Mass Health
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Postby hobokenbob » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:56 pm

I feel like hijacking this thread to talk about health insurance reform in general.

http://tauntermedia.com/2009/07/28/unconscionable-math/

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Postby hobokenbob » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:45 pm

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07312009/profile.html

An interview with a health insurance insider on PBS, if you didn't catch it the first time. It gets into more detail on recissions and red flagging by insurance companies.
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Postby OMGBEES » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:57 pm

Aetna has definitely done some weird shit. Like after the hospital stay, the first and third visits to the cardiologist were paid for, but they rejected the second. I called and was placed on hold for about an hour, after which the lady on the phone said she couldn't find any kind of reason for the rejection and re-sent the bill. I kind of wonder if they were just trying to catch the people who wouldn't call.

Recently they sent me a warning that the urgent care I saw during my eye could bill me for $250. So I'm going to go through the process again.
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Postby hobokenbob » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:02 pm

CNN outlines areas of wasted money in healthcare industry. (I mean besides the parasitic insurance industries).

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/10/news/ec ... 2009081009


the 800 lb gorrilla of healthcare reform no one wants to outright talk about, is in the last sentence.
Other areas of waste identified in the PricewaterhouseCoopers report included up to $493 billion related to risky behavior such as smoking, obesity and alcohol abuse


Why does the health insurance industry get away with fighting to keep the status quo? because secretly lots of people want the status quo, so long as that means we get to smoke, eat, and drink ourselves to death. start changing things, and people might try and get us to go on a diet and quit smoking.. i mean besides my primary care provider, whom i ignore.

it's also really nice to have monsanto and RJ reynolds as silent partners in your fight for unchange, as if the healthcare industry's lobbyist army isn't big enough.
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Postby Kauser » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:49 pm

hobokenbob wrote:CNN outlines areas of wasted money in healthcare industry. (I mean besides the parasitic insurance industries).

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/10/news/ec ... 2009081009


the 800 lb gorrilla of healthcare reform no one wants to outright talk about, is in the last sentence.
Other areas of waste identified in the PricewaterhouseCoopers report included up to $493 billion related to risky behavior such as smoking, obesity and alcohol abuse


Why does the health insurance industry get away with fighting to keep the status quo? because secretly lots of people want the status quo, so long as that means we get to smoke, eat, and drink ourselves to death. start changing things, and people might try and get us to go on a diet and quit smoking.. i mean besides my primary care provider, whom i ignore.

it's also really nice to have Umbrella Inc. and RJ reynolds as silent partners in your fight for unchange, as if the healthcare industry's lobbyist army isn't big enough.



Fixed it for you.

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Postby hobokenbob » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:08 pm

I'm going to keep posting about health insurance, until you tell me to stop hijacking the thread!

http://sobeale.blogspot.com/2009/08/don ... anels.html

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... 59&ps=cprs
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Postby Too-Much-Coffee Mistress » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:23 am

Um... sure, go for it. Problem is, I'm at such a standstill transition-wise right now that I don't really have a lot of new info to post most of the time.

My credit card debt is finally gone after one more payment at the end of this month though, so yay! :D
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Postby dogmeat » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:30 pm

Too-Much-Coffee Mistress wrote:My credit card debt is finally gone after one more payment at the end of this month though, so yay! :D


Congratulations! Now the real trick is to avoid spending on it at all!

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Postby hobokenbob » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:55 pm

OK! Apparently the "sooner state" stands for dying sooner.

http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001592.htm
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