Too-Much-Coffee Mistress wrote:I want to go back to the 'stirred up and posting' thing for a moment, because that seems to be the main thrust of your argument for his worth.
*irrelevant monkey example*
I don't think your example holds up very well. Now, if this monkey's activities caused us to examine our community, how we adhere to its explicit and implicit rules, divided us into different camps of opinion, and provided an interesting discussing point, then I think it'd be more accurate.
Fine, you hate MP. I'm not terribly fond of him either. But he's not a total idiot, or probably an idiot at all. For whatever reason he favors an oblique comedy style that borders on incredibly boring. He still hasn't caused as much trouble as some of the more active members here.
Here's the thing. MP is decidedly NOT causing us to "examine our community." What's going on here is barely constructive. Interesting? Possibly. Worth it in the long run? I highly doubt it.
I've passed the point where I'm willing to give MP the benefit of the doubt. He's acted like a complete cock-knocker so often in the past that it's improbable he's got something new to offer. His posts, up until these last couple, were completely and utterly without worth so I don't think that comparing them to monkey come is all that far off. Except in that monkey come helps monkeys reproduce, so I think an argument might exist for which has more worth.
As for these last couple posts of his. There is next to no content contained there. He's equating comedy with insults. Woah, that is like, totally deep,
man! The brunt of it seems to still
be that we're not getting him. Let's see:
Magic Placebo wrote:An insult is an inflated truth.
Oh god. This is complete and utter bullshit. Let's say I called someone stupid who is decidedly not by most definable measures. This would then qualify as an insult that is not true. The above quote is often true, but it's by no means universal. Besides which, it implies that there is inherent value in insulting people because they might learn from it.
Sense of humor is actually sense of humility, not someone who doesn't enjoy your type of comedy/humor or does not laugh a whole bunch at jokes or their misfortune or faults. Humility is when one can notice a fault of their own without feeling sad or inconvienienced by it being shown and can very well laugh at it as well.
Er, no. Any truth this might have is derived from the assumed truth of the last quote. Al Franken can do "greedy white bastard" jokes to a room full of Republicans and businessmen, at which they usually laugh. I'm pretty sure that, in reality, they don't consider their greedy bastardry a fault. Mostly because they see it in a different light, but hey.
Now, THIS is where the semantics truly come in. There are different types of insults that some people will love and some people will loathe. Insults can be mean spirited, playful, whimsical, humble and anything else as long as they have that one bit of small, inflated truth. Some people prefer playful over condenscending, some people want their insults to be a point or some sort of message and some people want their insults to be something that isn't obvious to the majority.
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is also MP's way of covering his own ass so that nothing he says can actually be 'wrong'. "I'll cover all the potential bases so that when someone points out a flaw in my thinking, I can go back and say 'See! See! I covered that!' "
If there was anything vaguely resembling a point, than that would be that what constitutes comedy varies depending on the audience. Well, no shit. Really?
Anti-semetic humour that goes over with a group of Nazis will probably fall flat with a Jewish assembly. That doesn't make the humour at all funny or good, it just means that Nazis are stupid.
Like I said. Nothing. Externally meaningless. Empty as all hell. Indignant, flawed reasoning, after post, after post, after post
of complete, total, unflinching bullshit. So you'll excuse me if I don't see what's so great about his presence.