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Postby Jat » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:31 am

z90LBWus: I hung out with lindsey yesterday - which was fine - I think I'm to a place where I can be only a friend and have no desire to be back with her
Girl: sorry bout that, jess needed to use the computer
z90LBWus: oh no problem - I'm not bleeding
z90LBWus: I am trying to figure out what I should do tonight
z90LBWus: I know I want to chill out somewhere but the question is where
Girl: read a book or something, i always enjoy that
z90LBWus: I find that I enjoy reading most right before bed and I have a few hours before that
z90LBWus: but I do think that will be part of my day
z90LBWus: I figure I could hang out with joey somewhere possibly or meet up with a few other friends of mine for a movie
Girl: sounds good
Girl: if you r trying to get me to hang out its not going to work
z90LBWus: nope not trying
z90LBWus: just telling you what i'm doing now
Session Close (Girl): Tue Jul 08 19:03:55 2003


Session Start (AIM - z90lbwus:Girl): Tue Jul 08 19:38:21 2003
Girl: i thought you were going out did you change your mind
z90LBWus: haven't found anywhere to go - my options ran out
z90LBWus: nearly they did
z90LBWus: but i"m not sure how much I want to see Kim or Lindsey
Girl: whats joe up to
Girl: u guys rn't buddy buddy
z90LBWus: it's his mom's b/d today so he is hanging out with her
z90LBWus: we hang out often yes
Girl: i ment kim and lin
z90LBWus: oh
z90LBWus: I hung out with lindsey yesterday
z90LBWus: and I"m invited to see her today
z90LBWus: and kim I'm sure would want to hang out with me
Girl: lucky u
z90LBWus: but I'm afraid that I'd end up having sex with her and I don't want that
z90LBWus: so I kinda avoid hanging out with her unless I think I could get a group to hang out
Girl: that is too weird
z90LBWus: how so
z90LBWus: the idea of a guy passing up on sex that odd?
Girl: no but y bother when it won't go anywhere
z90LBWus: because sex by itself can be an enjoyable thing (from what I hear)
z90LBWus: she has too much baggage though and I think that everything'd just get screwed up if I did though
Girl: what ever
z90LBWus: ?
Girl: that is a load of crap if you ask me
z90LBWus: I'm not too sure about it myself
z90LBWus: I think that sex for love is a great thing
z90LBWus: I think that love for sex is a terrible thing
Girl: i dont think you fuck with people like that
z90LBWus: love for love is good
z90LBWus: but I'm not sure about sex for sex
Girl: you will be exactly like lindsey
z90LBWus: which is why I'm not hanging out with her
Girl: sure
z90LBWus: you sound pissy about it
z90LBWus: does this topic get on your nerves?
Girl: i think you r being an ass if you want my honest opinion
z90LBWus: by not sleeping with her?
z90LBWus: by trying not to toy with her feelings?
Girl: no by stringing her along
z90LBWus: I'm honestly not
z90LBWus: wait
z90LBWus: let me ask you this
z90LBWus: because she likes me and wants me for more than friends - though she knows I'm not going to be more than friends - I'm not allowed to be her friend?
z90LBWus: I can't be friends with her because she wants me
Girl: i think thats how it works
z90LBWus: so I have to cut her off completely?
Girl: i dont think you can be friends with someone who wants to bone you
z90LBWus: I uh - don't think she can bone me
z90LBWus: I hope not
z90LBWus: ;-)
Girl: u know what i mean
z90LBWus: you sound very agitated at this
z90LBWus: I am not sure why you are so offended
Girl: in the begining jake tried to be my friend and look where that lead
z90LBWus: did you or he want to bone the other
Girl: way more than just friends
z90LBWus: I thought you wanted each other mutually
z90LBWus: and I don't mean bone
z90LBWus: I mean - I thought you had mutual feelings
Girl: he liked me a long time before i went out with him
z90LBWus: so kim would translate to jake and you would be me
z90LBWus: if I were to transfer the situations onto mine
Girl: maybe its different but most guys dont understand the word no
Girl: no i guess not i always liked him i guess i was just unavialble
z90LBWus: but since I"m the one saying no - and she wants the relationship isn't it different?
Girl: ok, you cant hang out with her bc u will end up having sex w/ her, you r doing a real good job at maintaining the whole "friends" relationship
z90LBWus: I'm not hanging out with her because of the possibility of sex
Girl: give yourself a pat on the back
z90LBWus: it's not - oh hi, *hump hump hump*
z90LBWus: I'm trying to do the right thing and only hang out with her when there is no possibility of it going wrong
z90LBWus: and not give her any leading on signals
Girl: how can you be her "friend" then
Girl: if you cant keep your dick in your pants
z90LBWus: I can and I am keeping my dick in my pants
z90LBWus: I'm not some dumbass scumbag that is just humping people erin
z90LBWus: I do have decency
Girl: sure
z90LBWus: when have I ever come on to you?
z90LBWus: how can you judge me as an asshole for trying NOT to have sex with her
z90LBWus: when have I demonstrated myself as what you are treating me like
z90LBWus: I don't deserve this
Girl: well here it goes
z90LBWus: ?
Girl: you dont like her, its not going anywhere and you had sex with the girl knowing that she wants something more, and now i guess you r doing her a favor by "trying" not to have sex with her
Girl: you must be proud
z90LBWus: how about this
Girl: i just think its wrong, just my opinion
z90LBWus: I like her as a friend, it's not going anywhere romantic but I think she is a pretty damn good person. She wants something more because I'm a pretty damn good person but we both know that I'm unavailable and completely not wanting a relationship. Just because something happened once doesn't mean that you can't back things down to an appropriate level, which I'm doing
z90LBWus: So yes - the two of us having sex was a mistake, and I make those because I"m not perfect
z90LBWus: I was feeling pretty fucked up about lindsey and completely alone and she offered to physically be there - knowing full well what was going on with me
z90LBWus: so if I had a chance to gp bacl I wouldn't have sex with her in that situation again
z90LBWus: but that doesn't mean I don't value her as friends
z90LBWus: but this doesn't change the fact that you still see me as an asshole
z90LBWus: I suppose
z90LBWus: because for some reason I can't screw up when everything in my life is fucked to hell
z90LBWus: and trying to make the best of what messes I create makes me just even more of a jerk
Girl: i didnt say that
z90LBWus: you are acting like that
Girl: i just gave my opinion
z90LBWus: that because I screwed up that I should just cut her out of my life completely?
Girl: im just saying that you cant be her friend if your penis cant keep from slipping into her vagina
z90LBWus: that's what I'm doing
Girl: ACCIDENTALLY
z90LBWus: I'm not actively having sex with her
z90LBWus: I"m avoiding the possibility of it happening
z90LBWus: and I'm not trying to make myself look like a great guy by doing that
z90LBWus: I just told you why I didn't want to hang out with her - because I don't want to have to be on guard for all my signals
z90LBWus: I'm a lot better than you are giving me credit for
z90LBWus: I never displayed a bit of this 'fucking around with girls feelings' type guy that you are making me out to be
z90LBWus: I don't know who you are really mad at - but it's not me, because I didn't do a bit of this shit to you or any other girl
Girl: well im just mad at you and every other guy in the whole world bc you are all evil bastards
z90LBWus: I didn't do what you think I did erin
z90LBWus: I'm not an evil bastard
z90LBWus: and I've not displayed myself to be one
Girl: r u sure
z90LBWus: dead sure
z90LBWus: to her - more than anything - I've been a friend and a councelor when she's not been feeling well
z90LBWus: the time we had sex was immediately after I found out about Aaron and I was crushed
Girl: u r skyrocketing through the roof on my evil bastard-o-meter
z90LBWus: you might want to get it checked - because I think you wrote down the results from your evil-bastardometer on my data sheet when you were testing a different data set
z90LBWus: you are applying to me things that I didnt' do
Girl: dont worry give it time and youll do those things
z90LBWus: I'm sure I will - but I"m sure you will too
z90LBWus: and every other human
z90LBWus: and now you are just being absurdly unfair to me
z90LBWus: what is on your mind that is making you think like this
Girl: its been fun
*** Girl signed off at Tue Jul 08 20:35:14 2003.
*** Girl signed on at Tue Jul 08 20:38:26 2003.
z90LBWus: ...?
Girl: ?
z90LBWus: you doin alright? - honestly?
Girl: lighten up
z90LBWus: if you say no I won't ask any more questiosn
Girl: u take things too seriously
z90LBWus: erin you just bitched me out
z90LBWus: after the bastardometer it was easier to take you less seriously
z90LBWus: but there is something there behind it
Girl: also stop analyzing
Girl: its not getting you anywhere with me
z90LBWus: because you don't want to be analyzed?
z90LBWus: where am I trying to get
z90LBWus: do you think I want to be anything other than friends with you?
z90LBWus: I'm still kinda shocked and ... shocked about being bitched out
z90LBWus: I don't know where it came from
Girl: maybe you needed it
z90LBWus: I think it came from you more than it came at me
Girl: y
z90LBWus: because you don't give your opinions unless you are strong in them
Girl: u r analyzing again
z90LBWus: oops
z90LBWus: I am aren't I
z90LBWus: then yes - perhaps I might've needed it
z90LBWus: did I tell you that I'm learning classical gas by clapton - I'm halfway through it
Girl: it doesnt work for you concerning me
z90LBWus: analization doesn't work when I apply it towards you?
z90LBWus: analyzation
z90LBWus: -sp?
*** Girl signed off at Tue Jul 08 20:54:05 2003.
Session Close (Girl): Tue Jul 08 21:00:02 2003

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Postby Luminaire » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:07 am

Stab 'girl'. I didn't even finish that, but I could see where it was going, she seems to be a bitch.

Frankly, I'm of the opinion that everyone you know needs a good stabbing. I'm sure there are some people you know that don't deserve a knife between the ribs, tell us about them.

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Postby Jat » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:41 am

over the years I've realized that this girl is incapable of thinking in terms of 'other people exist'
instead everything in her mind/life revolves around her

my solution - pretend that she has a crush on me because it pisses her off.

this is the typical conversation with this girl. I say something - she says something else about her completely missing what I said.

During the whole lindsey/me fiasco she placed herself in the middle of it and then tried to incite more fights between lindsey and myself.
THEN she claimed that we loved drama and were eating it up.

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Postby bone » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:43 am

Tranq-dart her and export her to some unsuspecting country. Stamp the return address as France. Works like a charm.
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Postby Jat » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:46 am

I figure that she needs someone in her life who will care about her so i stick around and treat her like a child (not blatantly of course)

she tends to piss everyone off around her and has no friends - so I let her complain about it and then I give her advice and then she stabs me in the back as best she can

it's just like kids though - you only show them a rubber knife and then laugh when they think they can get you.

I should probably completely stop talking to her but I've a thing against cutting people out of my life - I've only done it a few times (less than 5 definately)

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Postby Jat » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:56 am

I've a few friends who are reclusive, a few that are bitchy, a few that are nuts, a few that are outgoing, and a few that are fairly well balanced.

Honestly though - do you want to hear about the more normal ones?

Anyway - I'd lose my maudlin status if I started talking about things that aren't so drama filled.

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Postby bone » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:56 am

Seriously--foreign country. Sometimes people like that just need to have the stupid slapped out of them.
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Postby Jat » Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:58 am

she is going to become a doctor too - one that doesn't give a shit about people and wants the job for the status.

Lets see her not kill herself through med school though.

Doubtful.

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Postby Luminaire » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:00 am

Destroy her. Destroy her completely and utterly. Leave nothing. Post pics.

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Postby Jat » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:03 am

I called her today in fact - I could see her picking her cell phone up and seeing the callerID and just putting the phone down so I could leave a message.


Also - she frequently bitches about no one ever wanting to do things with her. She also doesn't invite anyone anywhere because she doesn't think they like her.

Which is why I call - because she wants me oh so bad :P

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Postby skyknyt » Wed Dec 10, 2003 4:44 am

Luminaire wrote:Destroy her. Destroy her completely and utterly. Leave nothing. Post pics.


Of the nothing?

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Postby Smokin_Jayz » Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:18 am

Man, you need to learn to find better girls. It amazes me that you've either gone out or hung out with these sort of people on a regular basis. Why would you put up with any of this?

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Postby Luminaire » Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:53 am

skyknyt wrote:
Luminaire wrote:Destroy her. Destroy her completely and utterly. Leave nothing. Post pics.


Of the nothing?

skye


Well, I figured he'd keep a sort of photo journal, tracking the process from start to finish. It'd begin with her standing there, then a few pictures later she'd be ina heap, wheezing and crying, then eventually it'd be a pile of organs and bones sticking out at odd angles, and the last picture would be a clean, freshly mopped floor where she had been standing originally, perhaps with some burn marks the janitor couldn't remove properly.

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Postby Jat » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:32 am

I do it because I don't like myself. I figure if I keep all of the crazies away from you guys the world'll be a bit better of a place.

It's like collecting garbage. If you have a nice apartment with trash everywhere then everyone looks at it as a mess - but if you have it in one corner then the rest of the place can be nice.


I'm a trashbag :)

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Postby Jat » Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:53 am

So I asked my ex to not go to see the lord of the rings at the same theater as me because seeing her upsets me.


I'll give you kids ONE guess what she did.

I don't even think we need to call it a 'guess'

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Postby Jat » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:11 am

Lindsey: you know that is the best theater and that i love this movie every bit as much as you do - it was unfair for you to tell me not to go - i told you i was going for the fact taht there were 3 theaters and i thought you should know if we had tickets to the same one - chances are we won't see each other so don't worry about it - it's a movie, a good one, so just relax and have a good time

z90LBWus: crawl up your own ass and die

lindsey: we do live in the same city - we will probably run into each other - it's not my responsibility to run my life around yours so that we don't interact - i am sorry that you feel that way around me but it is not right for you to expect me to skirt around you - i did talk about it with other people - i voiced my concern that i wasn't being compassionate if i went but really we both should be able to go to a movie

JPTaylor: z90LBWus: I'm sure there is plenty of room in your own ass for more than one person so you won't be lonely

Lindsey: we're adults and i'm determined to act like one - i will be open with you - i will give you as much room as you need - i will not talk to you if that's what you need -- i will not be manipulated by you and i will not take on your hurt - i am truely sorry that you feel like this about me still - i'm going to do my best to be mature and compassionate and show my love for you without being pushed around

z90LBWus: "just like I showed my love for you by fucking other guys, I wish you could love me like I love you"

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Postby Smokin_Jayz » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:47 am

Dude, you're a psycho.

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Postby skyknyt » Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:16 am

It's scary that she's the reasonable one in this conversation.

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Postby Jat » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:00 am

mostly I'd say that it's because I've had a very bad day
I've had to deal with her repeatedly today, that part you guys didn't see. I've also had the pleasure of talking to the teacher of my software engineering class. With his lack of ANY teaching skill and his opinion based test I'm currently receiving a 80 in a class that I've produced a perfect project for.

I blew up at her because it's what I've always held back. I've always tried to be reasonable and it's just not worth it anymore as far as she's concerned.

As of now I'm making efforts to completely leave all of this in the past. Hopefully I'll be able to treat her like the complete stranger and foreign object to my life like I'd like to.

it's not like you didn't think I'm psycho anyway

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Postby Smokin_Jayz » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:22 am

Jat wrote:it's not like you didn't think I'm psycho anyway


Actually I didn't...that is until I read this thread.


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